Nov
First off, I apologize for not posting recently. That’s 100% my bad. So here’s a few updates and onto today’s tips and concepts. Here’s the update for my EPN experiment. First I’m going to say this, I made a stupid move and got them de-index’d (GOOGLE ONLY!!!). What does this mean? I’ll tell you what [...]
First off, I apologize for not posting recently. That’s 100% my bad. So here’s a few updates and onto today’s tips and concepts.
Here’s the update for my EPN experiment. First I’m going to say this, I made a stupid move and got them de-index’d (GOOGLE ONLY!!!). What does this mean? I’ll tell you what I did wrong so I don’t do it again.
People sent to eBay: 35068
…in the last day: 1586
Total Posts: 278495
Total Posts: 333839
Total Posts: 385137
Total Posts: 283437
Total Posts: 347109
Not too shabby, eh? The reason that they got deindex’d was I didn’t throw any backlinks to the subdomains what-so-ever. I’m starting to now to see if they’ll get re-included (which is possible), especially since a manual review of these sites will pass.
Now for the concept of black hat skillz on white hat buildz. One of the biggest tools in a BHSEO’s is his or her tools. Everyone knows that. Let’s start using these same tools and concepts in a whitehat way to benefit the sites legitly. Let’s take a SERP scraper for example.
Using the right footprint for wordpress blogs, you can easily get a list of 1000 comment-ready pages from blogs. This can be used easily for comment and/or trackback spam. However it can also be used for whitehat use as well.
Or another example would be the trackback spam. Yes, this is still blackhat, but it simulates reinforcing link growth. Example: drop 5 links per day to a new domain, on day 10 drop 50, 11 drop 150, 12 drop 300, etc. Exponential growth from blogs (and yes, Google is Footprinting) will simulate a viral release. Natural ranking bonus? Possibly.
Use this as a base to look at the tools you have and figure out a way to use them on legit sites. Scrapers can be used for whitehat, blackhat and everything between. Make smart decissions and find multiple uses for your tools; after all its all about the ROI isn’t it?
Nov
EPN Update
Looks like the EPN is in full swing. Maybe it’s the liquor I just chugged, or my stats page really does look good .. Here’s the stats, enjoy. Total Posts: 133621 Total Posts: 173975 Total Posts: 166715 Total Posts: 113024 Total Posts: 147097 I’ll give a big shoutout to my woot-o-riffic splogs running that dedi [...]
Looks like the EPN is in full swing. Maybe it’s the liquor I just chugged, or my stats page really does look good ..
Here’s the stats, enjoy.
Total Posts: 133621
Total Posts: 173975
Total Posts: 166715
Total Posts: 113024
Total Posts: 147097
I’ll give a big shoutout to my woot-o-riffic splogs running that dedi into the ground. Woohoo!
On the real side of progress, here’s the main points …
People sent to eBay: 1867
…in the last day: 493
Have a good Friday night everyone, I know I will. I’ll post a few more things most likely in the next day or two. Just been a tad busy.
Oct
Well it’s about that time. Here’s a few raw stats from my stats page so far (across all of these only about 2-3 domains are indexed): People sent to eBay: 204 …in the last day: 14 One: Blogs: 972 Total Posts: 56070 Two: Blogs: 971 Total Posts: 66630 Three: Blogs: 971 Total Posts: 52186 Four: [...]
Well it’s about that time. Here’s a few raw stats from my stats page so far (across all of these only about 2-3 domains are indexed):
People sent to eBay: 204
…in the last day: 14
One:
Blogs: 972
Total Posts: 56070
Two:
Blogs: 971
Total Posts: 66630
Three:
Blogs: 971
Total Posts: 52186
Four:
Blogs: 971
Total Posts: 34251
Those are the beginning ones. I’m adding a few more things such as keyword mutation and multiplication. So far with only 4 domains being indexed, and the only index is the root page – the “to EPN” stats are nice. Before anyone asks, that’s AFTER I filtered out the Spiders, automated clicks, etc. I’m assuming most of this traffic has come from the ping services when I did a single pingout themselves. I guess we’ll see. I’m going to most likely do one more in a day or two and see what happens.
The content generation alone has already crashed my dual xeon twice (and yes, everything’s optimized – Dual 2.0 Xeon with 4 GB RAM / Dual 250 GB SATA II’s). My average transit usage per day is 100 GB. This should most likely bring me to around 3 TB by the end of the month, so most likely I’ll throttle it back a little so I don’t get about $2000 in transit overages.
Anyway, this is just the first update. I’ll update this more as time goes along. By the way, already $30 more spiked into EPN than average over the last 2 days. Guess it’s working so far.
I’ll be updating this more as I’m down in Scary SEO with the CMC crew. Until then – automation is key kids. And if the key is turned right, you’ll see results.
Oct
The EPN Redundancy Experiment is a half case study, half test of the “scraper sites” method. I’ll be launching roughly 70,000 blogs which are each completely automated to see what kind of results I can bring in via EPN. All of these blogs are 100% link-spam free, no cloaking/cookie stuffing, and points the visitor directly [...]
The EPN Redundancy Experiment is a half case study, half test of the “scraper sites” method. I’ll be launching roughly 70,000 blogs which are each completely automated to see what kind of results I can bring in via EPN. All of these blogs are 100% link-spam free, no cloaking/cookie stuffing, and points the visitor directly to the product they were looking for. In other words, these are an A+ on the scale for “user experience”.
The goal for this will be I want other domains to pick up the slack when the earlier ones go down. The main achievement I’m going to attempt to achieve will be “rolling commissions”. This means when the sites are penalized (if they do get penalized) and go from 300-400 uniques/day to <100, I want another domain to step up index wise and take over. For this redundancy experiment I’ve chosen to use a number of domains under 10, but each will contain roughly 1000 sub domains that all have automatic content updates & product pushes.
This will be an experiment to see how much in commission I can receive by the 30th of next month. Let the fun begin!
Sep
EPN & Blackhat
A lot of people often correspond the Ebay Partner Network and Blackhat as being a cookie stuffer. That’s true in some cases, but not in mine. I’ve been doing some smaller studies and seeing what kind of damage I can do with EPN, and now that I’ve hit $1000 I figure I should report how [...]
A lot of people often correspond the Ebay Partner Network and Blackhat as being a cookie stuffer. That’s true in some cases, but not in mine.
I’ve been doing some smaller studies and seeing what kind of damage I can do with EPN, and now that I’ve hit $1000 I figure I should report how I did it and more importantly, my response to the “random terminations” that EPN has been doing (in my opinion).
As of right now here are my stats “all time” and I will round to the closest logical number to make it easier to understand.
Clicks: ~13100
EPC: ~$7.95
Earnings: ~$1000
These are not exact results obviously, but here’s the funny thing. I hold a high EPC, I don’t cookie stuff what-so-ever and all of my visitors go to the products that they’re looking for. That’s my whole reasoning for me not being terminated from EPN so far. There were some days where I had 300-400 uniques a day, per site and I was running maybe 3-4 sites. I’m about to scale this out to about 700 and see what kind of numbers I can run with that. We’ll call that the “followup EPN & Blackhat casestudy”. This is not using any link spam what-so-ever and also no cloaking. The methods for the content itself is actually whitehat so it’s very hard to consider this blackhat at all. The only reason I am, is due to the fact that the sites DO get penalized due to … I’m assuming “lack of good quality content”.
There’s a good detail to that, though. They may be penalized, but instead of pulling 300-400 uniques a day they still pull 30-50 uniques a day per domain. So my assumption is that with 700 of them running, even when penalized, I’ll be able to keep up with around 21,000 uniques/day lowball and 35,000 highball. Obviously this is a goal to shoot for, but the actual reasoning behind dictates probably higher penalties and problems trying to scale. I guess we’ll find out just how much it will, assuming I don’t kick the crap out of my server and send it into a million pieces and/or start a datacenter fire.
My costs for this case study were low. A total of $50 was spent. Yes, you heard me right, $50 was spent and over $1000 return. The timeframe for this was really thrown off, I would work a little on it then let it sit. Total time invested in this was about 4-5 hours. 5 hours and $1000 later, that’s not bad for $200 an hour. A total of 4 domains were used, and I have 7 sitting which I’m going to use for this next test.
The method behind this is obviously a win/win situation.
For EPN
- I provide high-converting traffic
- I don’t cookie stuff
- I provide volume
- I provide sales
- There’s no reason for them to terminate me.
For Me
- Low Time Invested
- Low Money Invested
- Big Profit Potential When Scaled
Now, to address the “random EPN terminations” I believe that they have an algorithm on the backend that runs every now and again (like the Google slaps) that calculates both your EPC, conversions, and more importantly in/out keyword purchase ratio. Every time I read about someone that got terminated they were doing whitehat and legit things (with the exception of a few, obviously). What I think happens is that EPN tracks the keyword that the user came in on, and compares that with what they buy. If the user buys something later on that isn’t related to that product (to be safe lets say the same product category) – you get flagged. This will not happen due to one person of course, but lets say if 40%+ of your ‘sales’ are from unrelated searches, you get a ‘termination’.
This is just my take on it, but it does explain why I can keep on with my account and consistently provide traffic and make money – and some white hats have been terminated. But of course, this is my opinion and I can’t confirm it what so ever.
Hope you enjoyed the read.


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